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Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:04 am
by deslot
Hello, i am trying to get more rubber layed down on my wooden track. I have seen some tracks on this forum the have a nice blacken in rubber groove around the track. I've read using wd-40 helps soften the tire to get this affect, my track is about 3 years old mostly run ureathane yet to build up a nice racing line. My track has good traction, just like the look of the blackened racin groove. Any input would be well apprieciated. Thank's in advance. Tim

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:18 am
by jcis4me
Tim
Try painting the tire marks on since you are running urathane tires they remove the rubber layed down.
Check this out he shows his way of painting the tire marks . . .
http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.p ... opic=24649
Aloha
Marty

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:18 am
by deslot
Thank you.

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks. Tortilla flat

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:38 pm
by deslot
ImageImageImage Afew pics of my track added armco barriers and tires. thanks for lookin

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:05 pm
by deslot
ImageImage Start finnish line and the pit lane..

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:19 pm
by HomeRacingWorld
Looks great!

Now don't take offense please...but if you primarily run urethanes...it just isn't going to give the effect.

Using stock rubber tires as often as you can will get the job done. And avoid any oil or "greasy kid stuff". It can just shorten the life of the tires. A good sanding of the tire...roll it across some masking tape to clean off the "crumblies" gives you a good, clean contact patch.

Time is the best method. I know it is hard sometimes...but just running laps will give you finished look you want. Set up a race with some of your friends using some cars with stock tires. You will be amazed at what a few hours of hard racing can produce.

Good luck and again great looking track. You did great detail work there.

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:53 pm
by nhdungeonracer
Try using sticky labels or the sticky side of duct tape to clean your tires.
Simply roll the rear tires over the tape, and go race.

We run strictly Supertire silicones, and we get the 'rubbered in' look.

We think it's the sticky residue from the tape coming off the tires as we run.

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:00 pm
by chappy
I have to agree with Harry we run all wooden tracks, no silicone, it's either stock or urethane
And we have lots of nice natural track marks on the flat grey latex surface.
We get more rubber marks from the occasional running of SCX 4 wheel drive rally cars.
But there are natural markings at the deceleration and acceleration zones, and a little on the high speed corners.
Having said that we have one member who has Carrera track, new painted it with grey latex and has natural marks aswell as some which he added with dry brush technique used by model railroaders.
We found the trick to be using the cheapest latex paint available, which equates to the cheaper the paint the higher the rubber content in the latex paint. That equals traction and that means more tire marks on your track.
Forget silicone leaving trackmarks. If you notice guys making urethane tires from silicone molds don't have to
use a release agent because silicone and urethane won't stick to each other. Natural rubber yes.
But that's a whole other story.
Good Luck hope I've been somewhat helpful
Chappy

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:12 pm
by RichD
We run nothing but silicone tires and all of our tracks have a groove. When you true silicone Supertires using a Hudy the sanding wheel quickly gets gunked up and I believe that the same gunk, not the adhesive from the labels that we use to clean tires, is what gets deposited on the track.

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Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:30 pm
by Fred Fries
Have to agree with Dickey and Rich, my track never developed the "blue groove" till I started running sillies.

Fred

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:38 pm
by deslot
Thank's for all the feed back, and the compliment on the track Harry. Ureathane being the main tire compound with NSR rubber coming in a close second the traction is very good. Just like the look of a groove in track ,one question once i am able to get the rubber laid down would the ureathane take it away as Marty stated. Well i guess i know the answer to that since switching between ureathane and rubber i have yet to achieve a groove racing line. Every once in awhile i will slip on some slot it stock rubber on some cars and we will run them as is with minimal cleaning. We call it racin in the rain since traction is minimal, it's not a fast pace by any means but it is just as intense. Learnin to use the trigger finger is key, YA it's all about havin fun. Thank's again. Tim

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:45 pm
by HomeRacingWorld
Well they say silicone will take it away. I can only go by the track I have here. It has been well rubbered in over the years and I run nothing but urethanes almost exclusively now.

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If it is taking it away, it isn't showing. The thing is that we do race some 1/24 cars with foams from time to time so what slight amount the urys are taking away...we are just putting back.

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:57 pm
by deslot
Sweet so is hope that i can get that look. I've been looking in to getting some foamies for a few of my cars. Bottom line guess i just need to run a bunch of laps with rubber tires to get a good base down. By the way some sweet lookin cars there. :)

Re: Rubbering in wood tracks.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:00 pm
by jcis4me
Aloha Tim
I live in Hawaii and maybe its the salt air and humidity that causes the rubber effect to go away with the urethane tires, I use Paul Gage tires and some sili's too and the rubber ones that come on the cars, and the sili's and uri's both remove, but not all the rubber laid down. But Opinions are like...
Everybodies got one!
Every track has it's own quirks and quams!
BTW Great track wish I had the room for a lay out like yours! Maybe once we get to New Jersey the work shop there will be big enough.
Aloha
Marty