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Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:55 pm
by Gameover
holy crap...... you have my attention!
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:05 pm
by btaylor
Perfect! That will be stronger, more realistic, and just overall work better that RTR parts. AND its a renewable recourse! BRASS.
I am off work now, so I can try and catch up. Nice work Dave, the pictures don't show just how small those pieces are.You are so going to like the way this works!
Bob
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:32 pm
by turbokev
:o
I thought I could hang with you guys.. no way I have the ability to make that small stuff free hand LOL..
Are you doing all that with a dremel? or do you have a drill press?
In any event, bravo.. that's awesome and I can't wait to see the end result.
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:45 pm
by TsgtRet
Totally awesome, Dave. That work is way above my pay grade!
As I posted on Bob's thread, I'm waiting to see which one of you comes up with a "roostertail dispenser" to add to the dirt track realism.
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:52 pm
by waaytoomuchintothis
I've been fooling around with different ways of making Ackerman steering units for quite a while. I got the bug from Phil down under at Slot Car Outhouse. He makes them so small, he can get them under an English sports car in 1/32. Not only that, its actuated by the rear of the guide, so he can adjust toe-in, camber, and caster by simple bending of brass bits after its on the car. I was looking for a link last night but ran out of time. I'll look again.
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:09 pm
by btaylor
I should feel guilty,, but I don't! This so cool to watch the cars go through the corners, that it worth every nail biting, screwdriver throwing minute of it! What are you using for the center hole in the drag link? I used the smallest tubing I had and cut a piece 3/32nd tall soldered to the link.
Bob
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:40 pm
by HomeRacingWorld
I did not think I could get further behind...but I think I just got virtually lapped :)
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:06 pm
by btaylor
Just so ya'll don't think I left Dave holding the bag on this, this little gem is about to go under my 36 modified chassis!

Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:39 pm
by btaylor
2mm brass rod for pins, then peen them from both sides. I soldered 1/8" tubing to ends to hold the pins. That's also what I used for the king pins. Same thing, peened on both ends. it holds them in, and you can tighten them up when they get a little sloppy from racing.
Bob
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:56 pm
by Noahracing
This is so cool :banana-dance:
I know that Bob & Shotgun are going through the grunt work of designing this system, but, if I could make a suggestion, once perfected, maybe this is a piece perfect for 3D printing? ..........bibbster?
Great work guys... :text-bravo:
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:07 pm
by waaytoomuchintothis
I think I remember that Phil used a washer, soldered top and bottom on the king pins, and again on the tie rods.
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:53 pm
by dge467
That is pretty neat! Doesn't Chase Cars make a 3D front end?
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:04 pm
by dge467
I agree! Keep up the nice work on the jalopies!
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:20 pm
by Audi1
WOW!
Allan
Re: Ackerman Steering? Or, are we insane?!?!

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Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:22 pm
by chappy
Awestruck.
Nice work boys, really hard to work on stuff that small and your doing a remarkable job.
Bob C