Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Here we go! Round #2 in what started last year as a proxy duel between both builders and marques.

Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby Audi1 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:54 am

studioRS wrote:Allan, So glad you are deciding on racing an early Porsche 907, love it! Yes, go with this livery.



Thanks! I also have one of the MRRC 910s on order. I'll pair them both off against the NSR 917 and then see where my inner zen Porsche takes me............. :lol:

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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby studioRS » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:41 am

Allan, thank you for these tuning tips! All very nice, this is EXACTLY what I was looking for. I spend most of my time designing, decals, stickers and taking photos — very, very little tuning and or even racing, so this again, is very much appreciated. If you would like any design, sticker printing tips, just holler!

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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby Audi1 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:24 pm

Remember my very first proxy car; the orange 911S Adamowitz TransAm car that we did as a collaboration............seems like a long time ago, but it was less than 3 years. Still a high water mark for me.

Hope those points help; I have others if you want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.............. ;)

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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby studioRS » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:37 am

Audi1 wrote:Remember my very first proxy car; the orange 911S Adamowitz TransAm car that we did as a collaboration............seems like a long time ago, but it was less than 3 years. Still a high water mark for me.

Hope those points help; I have others if you want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.............. ;)

Allan

Yes, vividly in my memory! Painting and detailing the early 911 was really fun, glad to have been your teammate :handgestures-thumbup: I can hear the open megaphones howling now.

Some of my Porsche history
My Dad bought his second Porsche new at Al Holbert's in 1969, brand new 911E, if I remember for $6970 or something like that, at the time I was 8. Later on I learned how to drive in this, autocrossing and time trialling all over NorCal. Megaphone exhausts (like the ones on T. Adamowitz) work best on carburetors, the 911E had mechanical fuel injection and this needed a certain amount of back pressure to function properly.

So, when it came time for me to buy my own 911, we found a guards red 1972 911RS tribute in San Rafael, CA. Specs were '72 911T with rear flares, ducktail, front RS spoiler, 2.7 liter early w/mechanical injection (stock T - non Carrera RS 3 cam lobe) and a 4-speed. I swapped the stock exhaust to a modified sport exhaust (some mods, baffles removed) and boy did that 911 scoot. It never quite had the howl of a straight pipe megaphone 911, (was somewhat street friendly :o ) but topped out quickly at 125mph with the 4-speed. Fun Porsche.

I guess this 908/3 I'll be building up will require both the blue and red pill for going down the rabbit hole, on a budget. So yes, up to modifying some.
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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby studioRS » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:54 am

Porsche RS60, 718 RSK on its way to SoCal. The only mod I see right off is making the rear wheel opening shape flatter, matching the real one (comparison with MRRC Porsche 910 and real Porsche 718 RSK).

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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby Audi1 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:24 am

Those RS bodies are going to be really good!

I think I hear a fresh batch of resin being mixed up now somewhere in SoCal.................

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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby studioRS » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:44 am

I'd like to try my best to replicate the REAL Porsche 908/3 tires and rim proportions.

Will this proxy race rules consider allowing me to make mods to update a FLY Porsche 908/3 wheel sizes to best replicate the full scale real deal?

Here's what I'm trying to do, please let me know if I'm off the scale nutters wagon.

Compared to what FLY created...
- Full scale Porsche 908/3 front rims are SMALLER than the rears in width and diameter.
- Full scale Porsche 908/3 tires have more 'poke' — sidewall is super rounded.

FLY Porsche 908/3 has close to 15x8 front and 15x11 rear rims.

Would CB design insert 14x8 front rims and 15x12 rear rims do this job and then sand and shape PGT and or Quick Slicks to replicate the full scale? As long as the rear / front tire width was inside the body, it looks to be fine with the rules? Of course, keeping in mind the 1.2mm min clearance.

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Rims appear to be same diameter, tire diameter is larger in rear.

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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby Audi1 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:57 am

studioRS wrote:I'd like to try my best to replicate the REAL Porsche 908/3 tires and rim proportions.

Will this proxy race rules consider allowing me to make mods to update a FLY Porsche 908/3 wheel sizes to best replicate the full scale real deal?


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studioRS wrote:Would CB design insert 14x8 front rims and 15x12 rear rims do this job and then sand and shape PGT and or Quick Slicks to replicate the full scale? As long as the rear / front tire width was inside the body, it looks to be fine with the rules? Of course, keeping in mind the 1.2mm min clearance.


14x8 fronts and 15x12 rears would be OK; providing that the clearance remains 1.2mm minimum. With a 14mm rim, you might have some challenges sourcing a tire that will get you the extra height you'll need, but I don't know that for sure. I'm also not sure if anyone makes 14mm inserts for the 908/3(?) 15x8 and 15x12 would be an easier combination to source inserts for; I think. Quick Slicks are great tires, but they're silicone, which are not allowed. This is a rubber/urethane only proxy.

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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby studioRS » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:03 am

Glad I inquired, that would have been a rookie move for sure! Got it on QuickSlicks. I'll dig into other rubber/urethane tire suppliers as you've noted and check on different sizes.
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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby studioRS » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:51 am

ugh... My research on this rim/tire Porsche 908/3 Lufthansa Joest racing scale wheel "look" thing is going downhill fast, too much money for scale purism, with trial and (mostly) error on my part, which will turn into the needless expense. Passing up on the scale wheel binge moment I had.

This Fly classic Porsche 908/3 I have is essentially new, never run and after a full year of racing and crashing will definitely acquire racing patina and missing parts. All for fun really!

I'll see what I can do with what I've got and dial in this little racer.
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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby Audi1 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:23 am

Don't give up the ship! - JPJones
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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby Mitch58 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:25 pm

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This is my first attempt at posting a picture. This is what I came up with, it is an Eldon 906 body on a CG 3D universal chassis with a Slot It boxer motor.
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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby Audi1 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:34 pm

Good looking Porsche 906, Mitch! Is your Slot.it motor IL or AW?

I'd say you've got the hang of posting pics.

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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby Mitch58 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:32 pm

It's inline. It still needs the interior installed. Other than that it's about done. Unless I wear it out before it's time to send it off.
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Re: Ford-Porsche Wars 2017 - The Builds

Postby BARC 1 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:24 am

That old Eldon seems not too bad scale wise. I am running the crap out of the ones I built as well :D
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