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TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:42 pm
by Austin
We ran the qualification for Round #3 Sunday. I will test magnetic downforce for eah car.
I have B-Ball 8:30 AM till 7 PM Saturday.
Two of the four lanes are up and running. Will post photos of track this weekend.

Still looking for one more car. :flags-canada:

Photo of track I am trying to copy, yes it has the hill side.

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Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:23 pm
by Austin
Magnetic Downforce Using Magnet Marshal

Car # / Magnetic Downforce Grams
65 / 0
14 / 2
53 / 31 One big motor in this car
12 / 25
7 / 4
31 / 2
11 / 2
7 / 1
3 / 0
33 / 14
8 / 5
48 / 2
74 / 0
82 / 5
6 / 0 Lance
45 / 7
48 / 11 Randy
55 / 5
64 / 17
31/ 13
7 / 0 DOC
95 / 2
04 / 0
13 / 5 Austin
8 / 8 Austin
7 / 2 Dreincke
5 / 5 Dreincke
15 / 3
77 / 3
27 / 3
14 / 17 Tom
15 / 4 Msettz
6 / 6 Steevee
89 / 5
6 / 5 Arroldn
31 / 4 Fan
23 / 16
97 / 0 Barc 1
9 / 13
22 / 1
3 / 8
10 / 10
44 / 4
24 / 5 Audi 1
87 / 2 Audi 1

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:35 pm
by Audi1
Based on the RAA results earlier this year, my money is on the #53 and #12, for sure.

Is that in quali order, Austin?

Anyway, have fun with them!

Allan

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:20 pm
by Z-carfan
I'm curious Austin, why would a few of the cars have such high magnetic down force? Were there not limits to type of motor? I see my 18k motors came in the same. #31 & #44.

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:35 pm
by Austin
Cars with the high downforce have long cans

NSR "BABY" King EVO 3 17,000 RPM 245g-cm Torque - Magnetic Effect Long Can Motor - Increased Magnetic Downforce - Compatible with home racing set wall pack transformers

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:14 pm
by Radarek
Plus baby King being long - open can motor which add for magnetic downforce. I have used few of them in the past and they tested 18.2k at 12V.

Austin any info on qualifications results?

Are you going to race only on two lanes?

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:43 pm
by BARC 1
Yes number 53 and 12 will have the advantage. Those kind of downforce numbers are significant.

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:44 pm
by Austin
Are you going to race only on two lanes? Yes 5 min each lane, 12 volts, 4 amps max.


Yes number 53 and 12 will have the advantage. Both cars are U2 cars :scared-eek:

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:57 pm
by eightwheels
Like your track. Was there from the1960 till it closed. From SCCA Club races to Times GP and Mission bell and a couple of Winston cup races. :flags-waveusa: :auto-driving:

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:31 pm
by ShotgunDave
This is near and dear to my heart. RIR is my all time favorite track. I live about 20 minutes from where it used to be. I was there several times as a kid. I saw a NASCAR race there and went with my Uncle's to watch them run time trials with the Porsche Club of America. I even got to take a few laps around the track with my Uncle in his 356. Good times!

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:19 am
by Mitch58
I was born in Riverside, We moved to Orange County, but My Grandmother, Aunts, and cousins were still there. I remember playing in my Aunt's yard with my cousins and hearing the roar of the cars very clearly.

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:27 am
by Changing-Gearz
When this things over somebody should take the owner of the 53 and give him the old :violence-smack: behind the wood shed....

Oh wait a minute.... Maybe it's just the superior chassis, it just makes down force sitting still.... :liar:

I heard the owner did have a piece of foil tape cut down to stick on the bottom - but in the rush to get to round 2 forgot to put it on..... Not sure if that would have made a difference anyway....
My guess is - I mean - his guess is - Lead sheet would put the car below 1mm to the deck...

I'm OK with starting from the back or starting with a 2 lap deficit...... That motor just seemed like the best one for what I was working with.... I mean the owner....... Ah whatever - people will figure it out....
Lets race - we can settle things like Kyle Busch - after the race...

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:36 am
by arroldn
Looking forward to the results and race results.

David, are you keeping an updated results spreadsheet as you did last year? If so where can it be found?



Arrold

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:41 pm
by BARC 1
Changing-Gearz wrote:When this things over somebody should take the owner of the 53 and give him the old :violence-smack: behind the wood shed....

Oh wait a minute.... Maybe it's just the superior chassis, it just makes down force sitting still.... :liar:

I heard the owner did have a piece of foil tape cut down to stick on the bottom - but in the rush to get to round 2 forgot to put it on..... Not sure if that would have made a difference anyway....
My guess is - I mean - his guess is - Lead sheet would put the car below 1mm to the deck...

I'm OK with starting from the back or starting with a 2 lap deficit...... That motor just seemed like the best one for what I was working with.... I mean the owner....... Ah whatever - people will figure it out....
Lets race - we can settle things like Kyle Busch - after the race...



I never saw any rules saying you couldn't use a long can open frame motor. The fact that it has inherent traction when raced on metal rails might be just the case of good management making the most out of what is allowed.

For racing sake, I guy could just acknowledge the traction advantage and add a IMF ( Inherent Magnetic Force) class in the result. Three winners IMF, O2 and U2.

My experience with this is anything more then about 7 grams of magnetic traction has a real advantage. So my suggestion is anything over 7 gms could be moved into the IMF class.

I did this on a 143 proxy I ran. The magnetic effect puts the cars at another level when racing against cars that don't have it.

Or..................... not :angry-soapbox: :D

Re: TransAm Proxy - Round #3 The Riverside 1966

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:47 pm
by Brumos RSR
:auto-layrubber: It will be a fun running with the high downforce cars, hopefully the #3 with 0 downforce can get close enough for the DRS to kick in and get a tow :auto-camptrailer: