Austins Pioneer Camaro

[Austin]

Starting to setup my Pioneer Camaro for the Pioneer proxy race (stock class). Car was shipped down from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

First I will have to check the Home Racing World Review as that is all ways a great place to start.



What does the AS stand for on the side on the car

[kidvoltage]

Probably the racing class "American Sedan" from SCCA:

American Sedan® (AS), comprised of Chevrolet Camaros, Pontiac Firebirds and Ford Mustangs, are production-based chassis with modified suspensions and brakes. Engines are carbureted 302 and 305 CID V-8s that have been balanced and blueprinted.

[midagekid1]

Austin:

Looking good!! Did you have a chance to chat with the guy's from Slot Car Corner yet about them hosting one leg of the proxy?? If not I can give them a call.

Tom
midagekid1

[Austin]

Posting rules for stock class so I can find them easy

Re: Pioneer Endurance Car Proxy
Postby midagekid1 » November 7th, 2017, 5:02 pm


1. 'Box Stock'


Box Stock Rules

As the name suggests, these Pioneer cars in this class will have to be basically stock right out of the box. This allows for almost everyone to participate and have a competitive car in this endurance proxy class. Any car produced by the Pioneer Slot Car Company is allowed. They have a vast assortment of 'muscle cars'.

Mustangs - Notchbacks and Fastbacks
Camaros
Chargers

The only exceptions to this rule are:

. The chassis can be sanded around the edges to allow for 'body float'. There are absolutely no other modifications to the body. That means the interior, glass and any other features on the car have to remain original and cannot be trimmed or shaved to lighten the car. This includes the body posts.
. The original tires that came with the car can be sanded to ensure that they are true but cannot be taken down to the point where they significantly lower the car body.
. The original magnet must stay in the car that it came with from the factory.
. Extra weight can be added to the car but it needs to be placed within the chassis and not on the bottom or visible anywhere and must be of non-magnetic material.
. The original guide that comes with the standard Pioneer can be replaced with the deeper guide that is included in the parts bag on the bottom of the base. The original factory braids must be used in the guide.
. The 18 k Pioneer Typhoon motor is the standard in many models but some cars have higher rpm motors and these are allowed. Having a faster motor is not always an advantage, especially if some tracks are shorter and are more technical. Also the cars will be run on a mixture of plastic and wood surfaces. The car you pick must have the original motor size that it was manufactured with.
. Any two-digit number can be picked and must be placed on the doors hood and trunk. Please reserve your number and note that some numbers have been already reserved, so look at the posts in this thread to ensure that you do not have the same number as someone else.
. Car owners name and body screw adjustment information on car underside is mandatory.




. The Pioneer Endurance Proxy would begin in the month of March of 2018 but the cars would need to be in Edmonton no later than February 23rd in Edmonton AB at the GetCars Race Way.
. I hope to get 10 tracks assigned and have a mixture of plastic and wood. These would be hosted in Canada and the USA as to keep the costs down. Cars will be sent to me and the actual race would begin in Canada and then venture into the U.SA.
. The costs will be 25.00 American for one car and 40.00 for two. Payment will be due at the time the cars need to arrive. Cars can also be purchased for 80.00 American which would include your registration fee. Please contact me for that information if you are interested.
. There will be prizes awarded and these will be announced on a future date.
. An initial inspection of all cars will be completed prior to the first race to ensure that adhere to the rules in their class.
. Track hosts will qualify the cars in order to determine running order. An example would be too take the best lap out of 10 running laps for each car. These results would be posted prior to the actual race.
. The individual track host would determine Lane and driver rotations.
. Track voltage will be set at between 10 to 12 volts and shall be equal for all cars. (Assigned track hosts will inform the proxy of what voltage they are running at).
. The actual race format will be like most proxies where the finishing order for each round and the entire race series will be determined by total distance covered. Each heat will be 3 minutes in length per lane and for all the lanes on the hosting track.
. Each car will be raced in a fair and equal manner and subject to the same track conditions.
. A running inspection of the cars is to be made before and after each race. Cars may be cleaned as needed. The only tire cleaning allowed is tape rolling and non-chemical liquids such as water. Minor adjustments may be made prior to the car being raced without penalty. If a car breaks during a race the track host may repair that car and it may return to that heat if there is enough time. If there is a major repair required, the track host can contact the owner to determine if the damaged car will be sent home for repair between races. This will be done at the car owners expense and if the car is forwarded to the next event, it will be also at the owner’s expense.

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[Austin]

The chassis can be sanded around the edges to allow for 'body float' Now done
The original tires that came with the car can be sanded to ensure that they are true Now done
Now to play around with weight, I am thinking highter the better as the cars slides around alot with the stock tires.

[Austin]

Lap time with car box stock without magnet,
38 laps
Median 9.66
fast lap 9.325

[Austin]

Lap time with true tires and chassis sanded around the edges, body screws loose, without magnet,
38 laps
Median 8.33
fast lap 8.046

[midagekid1]

Austin:

What are your times with the magnet left in for the box stock?

Tom

[Austin]

[JULES]

This will be interesting to see if, on a random 'box stock' test, the cars are quite similar in performance.

Thanks for doing this testing, Austin.

Jules

[SlotCarCorner]

[Austin]

Area 51 Raceway is great, Magnetic wood track with the best drives in the North East USA.

[Austin]

All cars ran 38 lap, stock with magnet in place

Mustang Coupe
Med 5.75
fast 5.499

Mustang Fastback
Med 5.00
fast 4.899

Dodge
Med 5.35
Fast 5.132

Camaro
Med 6.47
Fast 5.798
Front tire rub slowing car down around turns. I will remove the spacers and run over.
I will all so test the magnetic down force of each car

Then true the rear tires, oil and retest.

[JULES]

Austin, what Dodge Charger do you have there? Seems rapid compared to the T/A cars.

Jules

[arroldn]

Jules,
My #35 Mustang with the 18K Motor turns 6945 RPMs at the rear wheels
The #65 Charger with the 19K Blue Motor turns 6425 RPMs at the rear wheels

Mustang smokes the Charger with magnet on Scaley Sport.

How are the cars geared stock?