Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby Audi1 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:03 pm

The thing that contributed most to getting me hooked on motor sports in the early '60's, was the great manufacturer's rivalries/competitions the existed at that time. And there were several of them. But, for me the one that was always front and center was the Ford - Ferrari rivalry of the mid-'60's. The giant manufacturer in Detroit and the little specialty race car shop in Maranello. Talk about a David and Goliath story!

It all started innocently enough. Henry II wanted more of a sporty car image for his family car marque. Enzo had great technology, but lacked adequate funding to fulfill his racing program ambitions. So, Henry put a deal on the table; Ford-Ferrari for the family cars and Ferrari-Ford for the racing cars. Sounded good; a win:win back before that slogan became popular. But, Enzo got a surprise when he read the fine print on the agreement; Ford would have ultimate control over the decisions on Ferrari's racing program; totally unacceptable to a person who has started his career as a driver for Alfa Romeo. So, Enzo lost trust in Henry. Enzo did go ahead and sell his company, but not to Ford; instead to the local family car manufacturer; Fiat, who, on paper, gave him the authority over his racing program that he wanted. When news of this surfaced, Henry lost trust in Enzo. Not only that, but he felt scorned by him, and that didn't sit well with Henry. And we all know what the result of that scorn was..........the Lola-bodied Ford GT-40 and 4 straight wins at Le Mans from 1966-69 and the famous Christmas Card that Henry sent to his top execs in December, 1965...."You Better Win!"

That rivalry and, if you will, the automotive romance that surrounded it, lives on for me and probably always will, and although next year will be the 50th anniversary of the last win by Ferrari at Le Mans in the prototype class, I still get excited thinking about those past times and the great racing that occurred between two teams with very different operating modes and technology caches.

So, I'm proposing that we consider a proxy race in honor of those two great marques..............Ford - Ferrari Wars!

The rules are few and straightforward:

1/32 scale
Any Ford
Any Ferrari
Plastic or resin body
Plastic RTR or brass scratch-built chassis and everything in between / podded and non-podded.
Rubber or urethane tires
Tires and guide not visible from above

Those are the basic rules, we may fine tune some of them if there's enough interest in this proxy.

The emphasis here would be on Fords and Ferraris from the '60's; the time of this great competition, but cars from outside of that time period are also welcome.

Since we're flush with proxies now, the cars would not be due until the March, 2016 timeframe, so plenty of time to pick out your favorite car(s) and start working out your builds.

Let me know what you think about this and if there's interest. From the previous thread on this topic, I have the following racers who have expressed an interest:

shotgundave
btaylor
HRW
tusco todd
gascarnut
mrollingthunder
brumos RSR
steeveew
slotting since 1963
retro racer 44
rleog
chappy
almafan55
audi1
pappy
mcliams
urbanwarrior
waaytoomuchintothis

Those of you who posted before, let me know if you're still interested. Others who would like to join in, let me know. Fords and Ferraris - it should be fun!

Allan
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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby HomeRacingWorld » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:12 pm

Still in it :)
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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby chappy » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:37 pm

Still in too
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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby Retro Racer 44 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:59 pm

Still in!

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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby Pappy » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:07 pm

Count me in.

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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby McLiams » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:11 pm

Audi 1,

I would like to join in.

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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby Audi1 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:12 pm

Welcome, Pappy! :text-welcomewave:

Bill, this will be fun; great to have you along!

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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby urbanwarrior » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:20 pm

Allan I'm in, I have one of each ready to go.
What motor?
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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby Almafan 55 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:50 pm

I,m still in ! Podded or non podded? Any numbers or are we picking them?
Now will someone fill me in on the in's & out's on urethane tires? :think:
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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby waaytoomuchintothis » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:00 pm

Far as I know, I'm still in...
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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby gascarnut » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:17 pm

Still in for two...

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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby TuscoTodd » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:19 pm

Allan -
I am still interested - looking forward to hearing the details. :)
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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby gascarnut » Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:41 pm

Here's another great Ford vs Ferrari battle, not at Le Mans though:

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This one at the Kyalami 9-hours of 1967. Ford won this battle, as the Ferrari of David Piper spent sometime in the pits after his co-driver had hit a pedestrian in the pitlane and smashed in the roof of the car. Jacky Ickx and Brian Redman drove the Ford, and Ickcx came back in 1968 with Brian Hobbs and repeated the win with the same car.

There was an earlier "FFW" in this event as well - 1965 saw the Peter Sutcliffe Ford GT (like the Slot.it green Spa version) narrowly lose to David Piper's equally green Ferrari P2, as a result of a collapsing wire wheel on the Ford. At the next event, it was wearing Hallibrands...

As a kid I saw these races live, so this proxy is right up my alley.
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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby Audi1 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:15 am

That Gunston livery on the Ferrari is really sharp looking! Looking forward to seeing those two cars on the starting line.

Great also that you could see some of this duel in person; I wish I had had the opportunity.

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Re: Re-Post: Ford - Ferrari Wars

Postby SLOTTING SINCE 1963 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:36 am

Nice one Dennis
I was at the 1967 Race

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