A sad experience

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A sad experience

Postby walker » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:11 am

The elegance of cheating

Although I have the equipment to vacuform bodies myself, I recently wanted to buy some vacuformed 43rd scale shells of which I haven´t moulds to do it myself.
Said and done, I ordered the bodies, and after some weeks they came.
Full of anticipation I opened the parcel. But what I saw was not enjoyable, it was more or less a kick in the teeth.
Except one all bodies have rounded lower edges on the sidewalls. So if you want the sidewalls straight as they ought to be, you must cut off so much that the sidewalls become too low.
Besides that almost all other edges on the bodies are rounded, too. Simply slapdash and superficial.
Since I vacuform myself I know that this could have been done far better with the appropriate expense of work.

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Most of the bodies are full of tiny bubbles in the material. So I cannot pant them inside, as I am used to.

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One of the bodies has a surface like toad skin. Rough, uneven, spotty. Absolutely unusable.

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How fine. When I complained WITH PHOTOS the answer was "This can´t be".
I should send the bodies back. I asked why, if "This can´t be" ?? When I invited the producer to make new and seamless bodies I did not get any answer at all anymore.

Out of sight, out of mind...A perfect tactics.
Why not, the producer is far enough away.
I fell cheated twice.
First - it is impudence just to sell such unusable trash.
Second - to write this couldn´t be although he was sent the photos.

I won´t change the world, but the truth must be said. Everything is provable.

This is PATTOS IN AUSTRALIA.

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Re: A sad experience

Postby Pappy » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:19 am

Is it possible that the bodies have a thin plastic protective layer on the outside of the body that you remove after painting it? Not saying it is but that might be the tiny bubbles you are seeing. Scratch at it.
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Re: A sad experience

Postby walker » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:29 am

Pappy wrote:Is it possible that the bodies have a thin plastic protective layer on the outside of the body that you remove after painting it? Not saying it is but that might be the tiny bubbles you are seeing. Scratch at it.


No.
Well, as long as I have been using vacuformed bodies, since 1968, I have never had a protective layer on one. Perhaps I had the wrong producers - Betta, Parma, Champion, Rhino etc.
Be assured, after having vacuformed a huge pile during this time myself, I know what I am writing about.


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Re: A sad experience

Postby Pappy » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:33 am

Well, as long as I have been using vacuformed bodies, since 1968, I have never had a protective layer on one.
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I have, that's why I asked. Sometimes you have to scratch at it pretty good, sometimes it's hard to tell it's even on there. And if they put the lexan upside down when they molded the body the thin plastic layer would be on the inside and maybe why there are bubbles in it. Just a thought.
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Re: A sad experience

Postby walker » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:47 am

Well, of course my raw lexan sheets are covered with protective foil as well.

But leaving it on during vacuforming ? Would mean it has the same characteristics as Lexan. But it hasn´t.

Could you please tell me the firm which sells vacuformed Lexan shells with protective foil ?

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Re: A sad experience

Postby bobbyraz49 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:58 am

Sad indeed !
Do the producers of this garbage even look or care what is being sent out.
I'd send them back and tell the creator they owe you postage.
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Re: A sad experience

Postby munter » Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:45 am

Bruce must have been having a bad day to put those shells in a box and post them...and take your money.

Feel for you Roland, I have nothing to offer except support.

I have bought a few of his bodies over the years and they were not great but that toady looking one is a beauty.
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Re: A sad experience

Postby walker » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:45 am

I thank you all for your understanding.

It is for sure not the money that makes me sad.

It is the way Mr. Paterson deals with people, even when they are customers. Bad quality, unfriendly replies that let you feel you were the guilty one who made the mistake. Not the tiniest sign of excuse.
I have never ever had such an unscrupulousness in business before, especially not in my hobbies.

Well, he seems to need that to be happy and to become rich - so I am glad having been able to help him on his looong way there.

God only knows what guzzles his soul.

And bless him nevertheless.

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Re: A sad experience

Postby RazorJon » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:01 am

paint that toad car green, I bet the kids will love it

you know the saying, turn a lemon into lemonade lol
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Re: A sad experience

Postby RichD » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:10 am

I have some HO Lexan bodies that have a peel off layer. The first time that I painted one I was not aware that the layer was there, I only discovered it when I went to trim the body. Those bodies look terrible. If you can find a princess to give them a kiss perhaps they will turn into something that looks better.
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Re: A sad experience

Postby BARC 1 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:54 pm

I have purchased many decals from Bruce and have always found him to be of good character.

Just wondering out loud here, as that toad shell is unbelievable as it sits and I can't believe anyone would think a person wouldn't have an issue with it. Could high altitude flying or something else cause the plastic to bubble in flight??? Again I have no idea, but just looking for something to explain why this shell is in such poor condition. I think this package was in transit for a long time as well wasn't it. I am just wondering if somewhere in the transportation process this package was exposed to something that caused this. Are we using some scanning technology in our hunt for explosives that some how reacts with Lexan. Sounds pretty far out there, but heck maybe something happened to cause this.

Maybe sitting in the Hot Australian sun and then 30,000 fit in less then 20 minutes or something?
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Re: A sad experience

Postby munter » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:41 am

Maybe sitting in the Hot Australian sun and then 30,000 fit in less then 20 minutes or something?


This is interesting as I recently read where some materials used in vac forming need to be dehumidified...kinda odd for a plastic to need this but that was the comment. Then I also read about boiling guide flags for other reasons. Plastic is sure strange stuff.

I recently received two vac form shells from Mr Patterson and while the detail isnt that great, the shape and finish is consistent with his other stuff I have had in the past.

I once put a bottle of NZ Tui beer in my luggage as a taster for my wife's son who lives in Las Vegas. I worried about it the whole ten hours of the flight. I thought it would pop and soak through my suitcase. It travelled fine with no problems at all.
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